Hi-point 45 breakdown

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Hi-point 45 breakdown

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Any one know how to break down a Hi-point 45?
Son in law just brought one over, and for the life of me I can't figure out how to remove the slide.

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phddan wrote:Any one know how to break down a Hi-point 45?
Son in law just brought one over, and for the life of me I can't figure out how to remove the slide.

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First remove the magazine and retract the slide to verify the chamber is empty.

Then move the slide to its rearmost position, push the manual safety up in the small, forward notch and lock the slide to the rear.

The slide retainer pin at the rear of the frame is now exposed through the large (rear) safety notch in the slide. Using a 1/8-inch pin punch, remove the retainer pin from the frame.

Pull the safety down and ease the slide forward. Retract the slide about 3/8 inch and pull upward. Hold the rear of the slide and push forward, removing it from the frame. Reassemble in reverse order.

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Locking back the slide lines up a notch on the slide that exposes the takedown pin in the frame.
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There is a retainer pin that gets pushed out near the rear of the slide. Folks will drive the pin through by using a piece of wood with a hole in it under the gun.

You can download a manual here. http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/manuals.asp

Here's a write up on a 9mm, very similar.
http://home.columbus.rr.com/dzimmerm/hi ... aning.html

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Thanks guys.
Got it open and :shock:

I'm on dial up and doing about 26.4 kbps. I did try the website for Hi-point and downloaded the manual. But I didn't have adobe installed yet on this comp. Tried to download adobe and things went bad.

Any way, is the barrel nonremovable for simple cleaning or what?

Aint never seen such a set up, and I can usually figure out most guns.

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And what is ya'lls opinion on the Hi-points overall??

This is the first one I've got to handle.

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The few write-ups I've seen on them all reported favorably.

Apparently, if you keep them clean....they shoot fairly accurately and seem to be reliable.

Thats the two most important requirements for me!



Let us know how yours works out.
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The barrel is fixed to the frame. You'll clean it where it sits. The recoil spring assembly is the trickiest part to get back together. They really didn't plan out the assembly/disassembly that great. Here's a pic of my Hi-Point .45 and what I think it's good for. I thought it was such a piece of junk, I made a jigsaw puzzle out of it. I wouldn't have given it away because I really didn't think anyone should have to own one.


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age_ranger wrote:Here's a pic of my Hi-Point .45 and what I think it's good for. I thought it was such a piece of junk, I made a jigsaw puzzle out of it.
Wow! I've seen bad reviews before, but you really have a way with words...uhh..pictures!

No one can say you didn't back up your beliefs!

I've never shot one, but was surprised by the generally good reviews I've read as far as reliability. Of course, when I picked one up it felt like a cinder block.
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They really didn't plan out the assembly/disassembly that great.
No kidding. I got lucky and the slide went right back on, and the spring didn't kick out like I was expecting. I really was expecting a fight.
I thought it was such a piece of junk, I made a jigsaw puzzle out of it. I wouldn't have given it away because I really didn't think anyone should have to own one.
Jamming, inaccuracy, what?
I've never shot one, but was surprised by the generally good reviews I've read as far as reliability. Of course, when I picked one up it felt like a cinder block.
It did feel good in my hand, and had a natural point of aim for me. And I was definately surprised at the weight, with all the plastic on it.
It does put a respectible group on paper, and I've felt worse trigger actions.
Overall it does go bang when you pull the switch. Not a tack driver, but good enough.

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Here's my take on the Hi-Point. It's my personal opinion and possibly not an accurate opinion on all of Hi-Point's offerings. This is merely my experience with the .45acp model I purchased.

Purchase: At $100 NIB out the door, I was whipping out my greenbacks faster than ammo cycles through a USPSA gun. I picked up a box of Wolf ammo to run through it as well as a few other brands to see what it like to eat best. I thought it was a great deal and couldn't wait to get it home.

Initial inspection: I disassemble all my new firearms and clean/inspect them. Upon removal of the slide assemble, some metal flakes dropped out. Further inspection revealed poor finish inside the slide with rough and even sharp edges. Assembly/disassembly was a bear at first but manageable after I got used to it.

Range trip: Loading the mags was easy and the pistol seemed easy to handle, although very top heavy. Mag disconnect.....yuk. The safety is small and not very comfortable to manipulate. Slide serrations were excellent, though and made racking the slide easy. Replaceable sights were nice and easy to adjust. The first shot made a nice burn mark on the side of my hand. Ok, grip too high and the slide got me. That slide sits awful low and forces you to take a low grip. This makes recoil less manageable. Adding a Hogue slip on cured some but not all of that issue. The Wolf ammo jammed consistently and shots were good out at 7yds. One hole was the norm when the pistol would function. Switching to Remington FMJ or Winchester cured the feed problems but accuracy deminished out past 7yds. At 15yds, it was near impossible to hit where I was aiming. Adjusting the sights didn't seem to help much, but helped a little. Verified this off a bench as well.

Cleaning: After the range came the cleaning. Not bad once I got it apart and the mags were fairly easy to disassemble. After removing the firing pin, I saw a ribbed wear pattern in the firing pin channel. Amazing that it would wear so fast. About 200 rounds into the pistol, this wear appeared and only got worse.

Overall opinion: Well, after seeing them pop up on almost every episode of Dallas SWAT, I can tell their intended target sales group. Cheap, slightly reliable with mediocre accuracy. My friends 9mm model jammed consistently while feeding. Lifetime warranty? That's great but I don't want to have to send it in all the time!!! Hi-Point did state that there's a fix for the feed problems with the 9mm's and they'll get it done for the customers.

Note from the factory: I had called initially because I heard the Hi-Point was made from cast materials and the slides would break or fly off. This is not the case no matter how much bull you may hear. I spoke with the company directly and they informed me they had no slide failures due to breakage or injuries resulting from such incidents. As much as I don't like them, when they work, they work. I've heard the .380 model is a great shooter.

Personal notes: I may have made a jigsaw puzzle out of mine because I wouldn't have given it away, but that's my opinion. Others may like the pistol and if that's what it takes to get someone into shooting, I say go for it. However, I'd advise anyone thinking of a buying a Hi-Point to save up a few more bucks and get a used Glock, Sig, HK, Beretta, S&W....any one of the leading Mfr.'s pistols which have been proven over time to be accurate and reliable with plenty of aftermarket support. Just my two cents, not meant to be the standard by which they should be judged. [/b]
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Thanks for the write-up AR. Lots of info.

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My second handgun purchase was a Hi Point JHP 45. (The first was a Buckmark.) The manual actually tells you not to clean it before you put 500 rounds through it. It also recommends cleaning only at about every 1500 rounds after the initial cleaning at 500 rounds. I have followed that and don't have any problems.

There were some initial issues with the magazines but once you figure out how to handle them, there are no feeding problems with hard ball. Mine is persnickty with hollow point. It feeds powerball, Federal hollow points perfectly, so that is what I use. Other hollowpoints don't work so well but I know some folks who have 45s that feed everything.

The gun is too big and bulky for carry. The gun is top heavy but nonetheless it shoots well. In fact, I shoot my JHP 45 more accurately than any of the other handguns that I have or have shot, including my Buckmark 22, my Ruger P 95, my FN Hipower or my Kimber 45. It just seems to point naturally for me and the heavy slide seems to reduce muzzle flip significantly keeping the gun on target.

I had one problem at 700-800 rounds and sent in in. They repaired it in a week, shipped it back at their cost and sent me two more mags. Since then I have put about 1000 more rounds through it without any problems. Everyone I know who has had problems has had a similar very positive experiance with their customer service. I know of people who have put 20,000 rounds through them without major issues.

I can afford more expensive guns and have some. But I don't have any hand gun that is more reliable or shoots any better. For somebody who doesn't have a lot of money to spend on a home defence weapon, it is a great choice. Even now it is in my bedroom as one of my home defence weapons.
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Thanks for response stroo.
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, but my dad went into the hospital Sunday evening, and has been in ICU since.
I appreciate the info guys.

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Hope your Dad's okay.
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Thanks stroo.

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