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Rant time.

So the GOP will have a majority in the Senate to go along with their House Majority and several more governorships too.

Big deal.

I have watched all of the talking heads and pundits ramble on about the message the people sent to DC. I hear about "finding common ground" and "compromise". I heard one mouth spout about how the first thing that needs to get done is a "jobs bill". In parallel I hear about how they need to go after obamacare. Similar discussions about the economy prevail. ISIL needs to be handled. Ebola. Everything pointed at the corruption in DC and the useless government must be repaired and they are just the people to do it. Time to get to work.

Please excuse me if I do not hold my breath. I will keep stocking away supplies, preparing, training, and loading magazines.

We are going to have two years of the same garbage. We do not need compromise or common ground as they define it. The only common ground needed in DC is THE CONSTITUTION. Government cannot create jobs. Obamacare could have been stopped by not funding it since all revenue originates in the house where that have had a majority for 2 years.

Something drastic needs to be done and most of the DC elitists have not got a clue what it is.

The entitlement crowd and gibs-me-dat crowd are going to kick and scream but let them. Turning this mess around is going to hurt, but they do not know that it will hurt less than the alternative which is when we go over the cliff.

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The election was a very big deal. As you noted at the beginning of your post, it was a rant and should be regarded as such.

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Charles, yes it was a big deal but my concern is that what the talking heads are putting out describing what they need to do is vastly different from what the priorities are and what needs to be done to remedy them. The same old talk we have heard every election.
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I believe the most important favorable outcome in this election will occur in the next 2 years when the next 1,2 or 3 Supreme Court justices are appointed.
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gljjt wrote:I believe the most important favorable outcome in this election will occur in the next 2 years when the next 1,2 or 3 Supreme Court justices are appointed.
Let's just suppose that barry nominates the typical progressive legislate-from-the-bench judge. With the current atmosphere in DC and the MSM muddying the facts, if the GOP Senate refuses to confirm, they will be labeled obstructionist and further gridlock. I think they should stick to their values and obstruct away but this is not likely. I would like to see a strict scrutiny type judge. Not likely.

Also note that the supposed conservative present Chief Justice had his hand in the Barry care ruling fiasco.
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anygunanywhere wrote:
gljjt wrote:I believe the most important favorable outcome in this election will occur in the next 2 years when the next 1,2 or 3 Supreme Court justices are appointed.
Let's just suppose that barry nominates the typical progressive legislate-from-the-bench judge. With the current atmosphere in DC and the MSM muddying the facts, if the GOP Senate refuses to confirm, they will be labeled obstructionist and further gridlock. I think they should stick to their values and obstruct away but this is not likely. I would like to see a strict scrutiny type judge. Not likely.

Also note that the supposed conservative present Chief Justice had his hand in the Barry care ruling fiasco.
I still like the situation better now than a week ago!!!
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gljjt wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
gljjt wrote:I believe the most important favorable outcome in this election will occur in the next 2 years when the next 1,2 or 3 Supreme Court justices are appointed.
Let's just suppose that barry nominates the typical progressive legislate-from-the-bench judge. With the current atmosphere in DC and the MSM muddying the facts, if the GOP Senate refuses to confirm, they will be labeled obstructionist and further gridlock. I think they should stick to their values and obstruct away but this is not likely. I would like to see a strict scrutiny type judge. Not likely.

Also note that the supposed conservative present Chief Justice had his hand in the Barry care ruling fiasco.
I still like the situation better now than a week ago!!!
Don't get me wrong. I do too. I like seeing the progressives squirm. Let us not forget that they can still do a lot of damage and just because they are no longer a majority in the legislature does not mean they will act constitionly.
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First words out of Tom Brokaw's mouth as the rout became apparent: What are republicans going to give democrats? My answer: Now that they have the majority in both houses, give the democrats EXACTLY the same thing that Reid gave republicans. Remember that Nuclear Option thingie that Reid enacted in the face of criticism that it was unwise because every dog has his day in the sun, including republicans? Well, Senate rules still invoke the Nuclear Option, and now dems are on the receiving end of their own wisdom. I swear to heaven, democrats have NEVER heard of precedent.

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What I want, and what I expect, are two diametrically opposed things.

I -want- an "obstructionist" Congress. I want them to obstruct the un-Constitutional usurpation of power that Obama is and has been committing, and to stop the soft tyranny of an unchecked executive branch.

I -want- "gridlock." I want the Congress to get in the way of every "executive action" that Obama commits, and roll back and undo the ones he already has committed.

I want Congress to pass individual budgets, not an omnibus. Let Barry attempt to justify each and every veto. And while I'm certain he'll veto the ones I want and sign the ones I don't, we still don't need ALL those departments, programs, funds, etc.

I want Congress to refuse to fund un-Constitutional programs and departments. Obama can't sign a funding bill for an un-Constitutional program if there IS no funding bill for it.

I want Congress to investigate, and -prosecute-, every instance of executive abuse, corruption, and un-Constitutional usurpation of power, up to and including the occupant of the Oval Office. If this means impeaching a standing President and throwing him in jail, so be it. If this means President "Bobblehead" Biden, so be it.

I want Congress to shut down the border. Quit playing games with funding, quit allowing other federal agencies to interfere and obstruct (Department of the Interior / Bureau of Land Management, I'm looking at you. EPA as well).

I want the illegals currently in the United States deported. I am more than willing to make exceptions, on a -case-by-case basis-, for the "Dreamers," as there are indeed some people who are not citizens, but know no other home, were brought here as children and had no say at the time, and are trying to "make things right." But I want these cases to go before Immigration Judges, to at least weed out the more obvious frauds.

I could go on, and on, and on, as I'm sure most of us can, and we might even agree on a majority of things.

But I don't expect Congress to do any of this. I expect the Republicans to play the Stupid Party once more, turn their backs on the people that voted for them, and attempt to "work with," "reach out to," and "compromise" with the very people and ideals the American people voted against, just as they have -every single time in my lifetime.-

If there was a button for "none of the above" on the ballot, I expect there'd be quite a few vacant seats, with "Nobody" elected to serve the next 2 or 6 year term. I know I'd vote for that candidate in several elections.
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I don't often listen to Rush for long - while I agree with him ideologically most all of the time, I do think he's a bit of a blowhard. On the day after the election, however, his first ten minutes were so spot-on that I feel compelled to present them here for us all (emphasis below is mine):

(Link to his full monologue)
What I want to do here is cut to the chase. The result yesterday is exactly what I said it would be. The Republican Party now has one of the most important and unquestionable mandates a political party has ever had at its junction with American history, especially a political party which did not run on a national agenda. The Republican Party purposely stood mute nationally.

Now, if you go into the races, the House and Senate raises all over the country, you will find that many Republican candidates ran specifically against Obamacare, and that is an important note to make and an important thing for you to remember. Individual Republican candidates won, and they won big. They won in a wave landslide running against Obamacare. The national Republican brand or image didn't say a word, which makes the mandate that they have all the more incredible.

It is rare that a political party running for office in a midterm election not standing for anything ends up with a mandate, and they have one, and it is the biggest and perhaps the most important mandate a political party has had in the recent era, and it is very simple what that mandate is. It is to stop Barack Obama. It is to stop the Democrats. There is no other reason why Republicans were elected yesterday. Republicans were not elected to govern.

How can you govern with a president that disobeys the Constitution? How can you govern with a president that is demonstrably lawless when he thinks he has to be? The Republican Party was not elected to fix a broken system or to make it work. The Republican Party was not elected to compromise. The Republican Party was not elected to sit down and work together with the Democrats. The Republican Party was not elected to slow down the speed the country is headed to the cliff and go over it slowly.

The Republican Party was elected to stop before we get to the cliff. And that's the mandate: to stop Obamacare; to stop amnesty; to stop the open borders policy of Obama and the Democrats; to stop the Big Government assault on the free enterprise economy; to stop national security policies that have allowed terrorist networks all over the world to pop up and fill a vacuum created by the absence of the world's lone superpower on the world stage. That must be stopped.


The Republican Party was elected to stop the run-up of a debt greater than all previous presidents combined have created. The Republican Party was elected to stop efforts by this administration to use the IRS and other agencies of government, in violation of manners and law, in attacking political opponents. The Republican Party was elected to put an end to this incessant and divisive lie that is the War on Women. Yesterday's result cannot in any way mean that voters want Republicans to work with Democrats. And anybody who tells you that and anybody who thinks that could not be more dangerously wrong.

You do not have election results like we had yesterday with the intent being that the voters intend the winners to work with the losers. This election was about stopping the losers, in this case the Democrats. There can be no other correct analysis of what this election was about. They were not elected to "fix a broken system."
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I did not hear that show. Rush and JSThane both summarized my thoughts exactly.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:First words out of Tom Brokaw's mouth as the rout became apparent: What are republicans going to give democrats? My answer: Now that they have the majority in both houses, give the democrats EXACTLY the same thing that Reid gave republicans. Remember that Nuclear Option thingie that Reid enacted in the face of criticism that it was unwise because every dog has his day in the sun, including republicans? Well, Senate rules still invoke the Nuclear Option, and now dems are on the receiving end of their own wisdom. I swear to heaven, democrats have NEVER heard of precedent.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drenn ... -democrats


Let 'em whine.


AMEN!!!!

Just hope the repubs have the spine to play as tough with them as they did with the repubs.
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anygunanywhere wrote:
gljjt wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
gljjt wrote:I believe the most important favorable outcome in this election will occur in the next 2 years when the next 1,2 or 3 Supreme Court justices are appointed.
Let's just suppose that barry nominates the typical progressive legislate-from-the-bench judge. With the current atmosphere in DC and the MSM muddying the facts, if the GOP Senate refuses to confirm, they will be labeled obstructionist and further gridlock. I think they should stick to their values and obstruct away but this is not likely. I would like to see a strict scrutiny type judge. Not likely.

Also note that the supposed conservative present Chief Justice had his hand in the Barry care ruling fiasco.
I still like the situation better now than a week ago!!!
Don't get me wrong. I do too. I like seeing the progressives squirm. Let us not forget that they can still do a lot of damage and just because they are no longer a majority in the legislature does not mean they will act constitionly.
Agreed!!
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I also hope the Republicans will stop the infighting and join together to overrun the progressives. If they don't, the next two years are going to be even uglier for our country than the last 6.
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anygunanywhere wrote:We are going to have two years of the same garbage. We do not need compromise or common ground as they define it. The only common ground needed in DC is THE CONSTITUTION. Government cannot create jobs. Obamacare could have been stopped by not funding it since all revenue originates in the house where that have had a majority for 2 years.
Not all Republicans are created equal. Some are fiscal and social conservative. Others would have been called "Reds" or "Pinkos" in another era. That's true nationally and locally. Even in Texas, a big chunk of the 2/3 majority are neither pro-gun nor anti-handouts.
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