Outstanding Book - A Must Read

[TEX]

I was not really sure which section to post this in, but this looked like the most appropriate. I have just recently finished reading a book that I consider the most important book that I have read in the past decade, and I read quite bit. The book is;

Because They Hate by Bridget Gabriel

If you really want to know what we are up against concerning Islam, this is the book to read. It should be required reading by every high school student and every person entering the military. In the end I believe this may turn out to be a greater threat that Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union during the cold war, chiefly because of its devious nature.

There is one particular quote in the book that really turned on the light bulb for me and it was something to the effect that “even the Nazis (as bad as they were) did not strap bombs to their own children and send them into groups of innocent civilians�.

Anyway, it is an easy read, an eye opener, and really lays out political development of the Middle East in the last 60 years or so.

TEX

[Liberty]

In the end I believe this may turn out to be a greater threat that Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union during the cold war, chiefly because of its devious nature.

Maybe the years have softened the memories for some of us.

There is one particular quote in the book that really turned on the light bulb for me and it was something to the effect that “even the Nazis (as bad as they were) did not strap bombs to their own children and send them into groups of innocent civilians�.
TEX

No, they only gathered the innocent, round them up in camps, to systematically gas them

I understand that the Muslim extremist are evil, and that they must be stopped. But these comparisons trivialize the sacrifices and the horror that the German Nazis imposed on Europe, the Jews and the rest of the world.
The Muslims just aren't as efficient and organized at genocide. The Nazis killed a more than 418 thousand Americans. 6 Million Jews were systematically exterminated. Its important to remember just how bad these guys were. Comparisons of Muslim terrorist to these guys trivializes the scale of horror the Germans caused the entire world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

Lest we forget

[GlockenHammer]

I was not really sure which section to post this in, but this looked like the most appropriate.

I'll bring this up with the other moderators. In the meantime, I hope this stays civil.

[longtooth]

We are all in agreement.

[Venus Pax]

Few generations have survived without some sort of threat to their lives or liberties. The adversary just puts on a new mask from time to time. Evil is still evil, whether it puts on the mask of a Nazi or a Muslim extremist.

[TEX]

To "Liberty", with all due respect.

All very, very true what you say, and I certainly was not trivializing what the Nazis did, nor did I think you were accusing me of doing such.

Think for a minute however, what these Muslim nuts could accomplish if they had access to the same weapons technology, and abundance of it, that the Nazis had. They too would be rounding up not only Jews, but Christians, Buddhist, Hindus, etc. into camps and exterminating them. If they gain access to nukes they will instantly have that power and I don’t think they would hesitate to use it. The Nazis had an insane, misdirected and murderous hate for the Jews in particular, with the French and Russians not far behind. These Muslim nuts hate EVERYONE! The point I tried to make, and think the author was making, about them strapping bombs to their own children is that their hate is so extreme that they are incapable of being reasoned with and think along lines that many of us cannot comprehend. They want to destroy everything that is not Islam and don’t seem concerned that such a goal, would in the end, destroy them also. The Nazis were terrible, but they may yet be out done by even more enthusiastic murders.

I did not mean to stir up trouble with my original post. I just thought it was an excellent book to get a grip on what we are truly up against. I, like most before 9-11, did not know much about Islam and understood little about it. I have read and studied a ton since then and what I have found disturbs me greatly.

Have a Good One - TEX

[Liberty]

All very, very true what you say, and I certainly was not trivializing what the Nazis did, nor did I think you were accusing me of doing such.

I wasn't, I tend to be a little terse in my writing.

Think for a minute however, what these Muslim nuts could accomplish if they had access to the same weapons technology, and abundance of it, that the Nazis had. They too would be rounding up not only Jews, but Christians, Buddhist, Hindus, etc. into camps and exterminating them. If they gain access to nukes they will instantly have that power and I don’t think they would hesitate to use it.

They are still a backwards tribal bunch of barbarians. Their biggest weakness is that their hatred is so all encompassing that they can't focus on any particular group. The extremist spend more time and effort killing other extremist than they do on us or the Jews.

The Nazis had an insane, misdirected and murderous hate for the Jews in particular, with the French and Russians not far behind. These Muslim nuts hate EVERYONE! The point I tried to make, and think the author was making, about them strapping bombs to their own children is that their hate is so extreme that they are incapable of being reasoned with and think along lines that many of us cannot comprehend. They want to destroy everything that is not Islam and don’t seem concerned that such a goal, would in the end, destroy them also. The Nazis were terrible, but they may yet be out done by even more enthusiastic murders.

Cold and calculating is usually more dangerous than the insane. Hitler was cold calculating and insane.

I hope not, and I certainly don't mind stopping the terrorist at any opportunity. Their main intent is to cause fear. Its the very definition of terrorism. I prefer to just kill them and not give it much thought. I think we are doing a pretty good job at killing them.

I did not mean to stir up trouble with my original post.

I didn't know you had?

I just thought it was an excellent book to get a grip on what we are truly up against. I, like most before 9-11, did not know much about Islam and understood little about it. I have read and studied a ton since then and what I have found disturbs me greatly.

I know bit about them. I lived with them for a while. I know something about Nazi's .. I married into a Jewish family.

They taught me that they take Nitrogens sig to heart.

יזכר לא עד פעם
Izkor. Lo Od Pa'am.
Remember. Never Again.

[dihappy]

Lets be careful what we post and write about the opinion of one author on the religion of Islam.

We may very well have some Muslim members and/or visitors to this site.

This should not be a "good ole boy" site and i have more than one Muslim friend who will defend his religion and who wants no part of those who seek to distort its meaning as a "terrorists religion"

[Liberty]

Lets be careful what we post and write about the opinion of one author on the religion of Islam.

We may very well have some Muslim members and/or visitors to this site.

This should not be a "good ole boy" site and i have more than one Muslim friend who will defend his religion and who wants no part of those who seek to distort its meaning as a "terrorists religion"

Thanks for the reminder. We are at war today to protect Moslem people from fanatical terrorist.

[lrb111]

There is actually quite a bit of history of the fanatical extremism in Islam dating from their joining with the Nazi military. They had their own units. The collusion was deep, and Husseni and his people were basically just left and carried on their mission of hate.

I'm no in depth historian, but here is a basic start.
http://stosstruppen39-45.tripod.com/id10.html

[dihappy]

Lets be careful what we post and write about the opinion of one author on the religion of Islam.

We may very well have some Muslim members and/or visitors to this site.

This should not be a "good ole boy" site and i have more than one Muslim friend who will defend his religion and who wants no part of those who seek to distort its meaning as a "terrorists religion"

Thanks for the reminder. We are at war today to protect Moslem people from fanatical terrorist.

We are at war to protect Americans from fanatical terrorists; catholic, jewish, christian, and muslim alike.

[nitrogen]

Lets be careful what we post and write about the opinion of one author on the religion of Islam.

We may very well have some Muslim members and/or visitors to this site.

This should not be a "good ole boy" site and i have more than one Muslim friend who will defend his religion and who wants no part of those who seek to distort its meaning as a "terrorists religion"

Good reminder.

I think we all will agree that Muslims aren't the problem; it's the muslims that use their religion as a vehicle of hatred to attack others. Its the ones strapping bombs to their children that are the problem.

The problem, as I see it is I don't hear a lot of angry Muslims standing against the violent and evil acts of what is done in the name of their religion. The lack of angry voices would leave many to believe that Muslims everywhere silently approve of what is being done in the Middle East, and elsewhere.

When you bring up the comparison of Middle Eastern regimes to Nazis, in a way you're more right than you realise. For many years, the people that call themselves palestinians (honestly just Jordanians, Syrians, and other Arabs, but this is another topic I can expand on if anyone cares to hear it)

When Israel came into existence, People now calling themselves Palestinians illegally immigrated to the area from Jordan, Syria, and other Arab countries to escape corruption and get better job opportunities. (Sound familliar?)

Now, back to my point about the Nazi equivilancy. The corrupt leadership of these band of people take their money, and blame their lack of progress on the Israelli people. In a way, Hamas and the PLO are one step ahead of the Nazis, because they inspire regular citizens to do their dirty work, instead of a uniformed army.

So my point is, the problem in "Palestine" is all corruption. Islam is a tool used by the people in the area to wage war against a soverign nation in a way that cannot be traced back to the governments and people that support it.

If anyone cares to hear it, I can link to some good histories of the whole conflict, and write a pretty consice summary of it.