Slap on the Wrist for a Serial SWATer

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Slap on the Wrist for a Serial SWATer

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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/ma ... hkvj0&_r=1

The Canadians are hot to shut down Yoga classes for imaginary crimes like "cultural appropriation" (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 910798.cms), but when it comes to actual criminals they just yawn.

‘‘Dox’’ is a scary word. It’s a document of your private information posted online for anyone to see and exploit. Doxing makes you vulnerable to all sorts of mischief, from phone harassment to credit-­card fraud or worse. Obnoxious was able to obtain this sort of information for dozens of women. He mainly did it by cold-­calling Internet companies and duping customer-­service representatives over the phone. He would use one small piece of public information, a birthday or a favorite pet, to get yet another from one company, and then he would use the new piece to get more information from a different company. He had a con man’s gift for deception. Sometimes he was even able to take over a woman’s account. ‘‘He loved to tell me how he did it,’’ Janet says. ‘‘He told me that he would call customer service at Amazon, say that he forgot my password but he knows my birthday, and the Amazon people, they just give it. And if they wouldn’t, he would just call again.’’ (Amazon did not respond to multiple requests for comment.)

When the women stopped responding to him, he escalated his attacks. He told a transgender streamer named Alexa Walk that he had her medical records and knew her birth name. Then he posted her birth name on Twitter. He posted nude pictures of some women on Twitter as well. He once posted a nude shot of a 14-year-old girl and later bragged that he was a pedophile. Women reported the abuse to Twitter, but whenever Twitter banned him, he would just make a new account and continue as before.

Online abuse began to cross over into the physical world. He sent pizzas to their homes. A string of deliverymen climbed the stairs to K.’s apartment in Florida, carrying unappetizing pies: deep-dish pizza with no cheese, pizza with anchovies and jalapeños, double bacon and double pepperoni. He called their cellphones repeatedly and sent ‘‘text bombs’’ of hundreds of messages at a time. If all else failed and Obnoxious couldn’t get a hold of a woman, he would start threatening to dispatch a SWAT team to her house, or her parents’ house, or her college — a kind of intrusion that couldn’t be ignored.
A cop in Georgia and the FBI had to hand them this guy on a silver platter....guess they were too busy enforcing multiculturalism. No doubt our "progressives" would be happy if the police would leave the criminals alone here and go after those who aren't sufficiently PC instead.
B.A. Finley, a detective sergeant with the Johns Creek Police Department outside Atlanta, had heard about swatting but never really understood it until Jan. 16, 2014. That afternoon, a man called a police line in Alpharetta, Ga., and said he had killed three people in a home in nearby Johns Creek and was holding a girl hostage. ‘‘If you send any cops here, I swear to God I’ll shoot their ass.’’ The dispatcher tried to get information as the man stammered and cursed at her. ‘‘I got the little girl right here.’’ He said he needed $30,000 or he would kill the girl, too.

Officers — including Finley — raced to the address with rifles and shotguns, unholstering loaded pistols at the scene, only to find that there was no hostage-­taker, no dead family, no emergency. There was only chaos: close to 40 responders and their vehicles, gawking neighbors, traumatized victims, everyone trying to figure out what had happened.

The hoax made the news, and the Johns Creek mayor expressed his anger publicly. Then, nine days later, the police got a second call of an emergency at the same address, this time from a different-­sounding man. ‘‘Hey, yo,’’ he said. ‘‘I’m at one of my old buddies’ house. He stole, like, ten grand from me.’’ And then: ‘‘I planted four bombs in his house.’’ It was another swatting hoax.

The police chief asked Finley to make the case his top priority, to take whatever time he needed to catch the perpetrator — a mandate that detectives, especially those looking into swatting cases, don’t often enjoy.
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How 'swatting' isn't on par with making a bomb threat or isn't prosecuted like a terror threat is beyond me...
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Pariah3j wrote:How 'swatting' isn't on par with making a bomb threat or isn't prosecuted like a terror threat is beyond me...
Did you read the whole article? He made bomb threats too. He did a boatload of illegal stuff beyond what is usually referred to as swatting. And committed fraud/theft when he ordered pizzas to be delivered to his targets. But he didn't refuse to bake a gay wedding cake, so it's all ok in Canuckistan.
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There's a YouTube video compilation of streamers getting swatted while playing live.
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VMI77 wrote:
Pariah3j wrote:How 'swatting' isn't on par with making a bomb threat or isn't prosecuted like a terror threat is beyond me...
Did you read the whole article? He made bomb threats too. He did a boatload of illegal stuff beyond what is usually referred to as swatting. And committed fraud/theft when he ordered pizzas to be delivered to his targets. But he didn't refuse to bake a gay wedding cake, so it's all ok in Canuckistan.

Sorry - I didn't read the whole article - kinda glanced at it... but I was more referring to the other 'swatting' incidences I've heard about, these guys are often not charged or not charged (IMO) appropriately... either way sounds like this guy got a slap on the wrist for all of that.
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Time for civil suits then - something to get the message across to these morons.
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it's honestly scary stuff. both of my kids are gamers. I've talked with them, esp my daughter who watches those streams, but doesn't interact with people on those sites thankfully. she has very private sites she goes to.
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As a gamer who loves multiplayer games, it is a little scary. While the examples that have gotten media attention and been captured were mostly streamers - this happens just as much to people that just happen to be online and piss off one of these [abbreviated profanity deleted.]. I think stiffer penalties need to be enacted for these malicious calls/attacks, that would help curb the behavior to a degree.

Secondly a conversation needs to be had about the overzealous nature of some of these police departments and their overuse of SWAT. I believe it has just as much a role in 'swatting' as the hoaxers themselves. Thinking back, prank calls and hoaxes have always gone on as far back as I can remember, but somewhere along the way the police stopped investigating or researching and just started charging headlong into things based on one phone call or report.

Not sure what all the answers are, but I do know its getting worst and more prevalent. I suspect this is going to require one of these going horribly wrong and becoming a tragedy before it gets the attention it deserves.
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No-knock warrants are just dangerous, and being an outsider, I would say overused. I think they tend to be used to justify all that expensive tactical gear - instead of providing the best equipment for our LEOs when it's actually needed.

Haven't we already had LEOs shot because of this kind of thing? I recall one incident but I believe it was an wrong address, not a SWATing call.
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I heard he got some jail time, 16 months actually, must have been a bogus first report. Seems you have to wait a week or two before any breaking-news is validated. I'm not going to read that fascinating 10,000 word article to find out what his punishment was.
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SA_Steve wrote:I heard he got some jail time, 16 months actually, must have been a bogus first report. Seems you have to wait a week or two before any breaking-news is validated. I'm not going to read that fascinating 10,000 word article to find out what his punishment was.

Breaking news? What are you talking about? You obviously didn't read the article. First report? This guy started targeting women in the summer of 2013. The police in Canada REFUSED to do anything about it. The victims put their own group together to investigate because the Canadian authorities wouldn't do anything. The ONLY REASON they eventually did anything is because a cop in Georgia spent over 1,000 hours on the case and was able to get the FBI involved. The Canadian authorities dragged their feet for months, only finally doing something after having the case handed to them on a silver platter AND the guy blatantly launching attacks publicly over a period of several hours.

The article reference to Dec. 1 is Dec. 1, 2014.
At some point after midnight on Dec. 1, Obnoxious started broadcasting his crimes on multiple sites. When one site would ban him, he would switch to another. The stream showed everything but his face. His voice was audible, and sometimes the voices of five or six other male teenagers, egging him on. Incredibly, in full view of anyone who wanted to watch (he posted links to the streams on Twitter), he made two hoax emergency calls to two American police departments: St. Paul and Grove City, Ohio. Grove City sent officers with tactical rifles to surround a house in a residential neighborhood, surprising a woman’s husband when he opened the door.

Obnoxious’s stream continued for more than eight hours and 40 minutes, enough time for many of his victims to realize what he was doing and frantically email their police contacts: He is swatting people right now, in front of an audience. Hayli saw the stream and couldn’t believe it. Finley was watching it, too. The mother of the University of Arizona victim tipped him off. He emailed a link to his contacts in Canada and told them to tune in.

The Canadian police arrested the suspect on Dec. 5, four days after he tried to swat Hayli. Much of the case against him had been shipped up from Georgia.
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VMI77 wrote:
SA_Steve wrote:I heard he got some jail time, 16 months actually, must have been a bogus first report. Seems you have to wait a week or two before any breaking-news is validated. I'm not going to read that fascinating 10,000 word article to find out what his punishment was.

Breaking news? What are you talking about? You obviously didn't read the article. First report? This guy started targeting women in the summer of 2013. The police in Canada REFUSED to do anything about it. The victims put their own group together to investigate because the Canadian authorities wouldn't do anything. The ONLY REASON they eventually did anything is because a cop in Georgia spent over 1,000 hours on the case and was able to get the FBI involved. The Canadian authorities dragged their feet for months, only finally doing something after having the case handed to them on a silver platter AND the guy blatantly launching attacks publicly over a period of several hours.

The article reference to Dec. 1 is Dec. 1, 2014.
At some point after midnight on Dec. 1, Obnoxious started broadcasting his crimes on multiple sites. When one site would ban him, he would switch to another. The stream showed everything but his face. His voice was audible, and sometimes the voices of five or six other male teenagers, egging him on. Incredibly, in full view of anyone who wanted to watch (he posted links to the streams on Twitter), he made two hoax emergency calls to two American police departments: St. Paul and Grove City, Ohio. Grove City sent officers with tactical rifles to surround a house in a residential neighborhood, surprising a woman’s husband when he opened the door.

Obnoxious’s stream continued for more than eight hours and 40 minutes, enough time for many of his victims to realize what he was doing and frantically email their police contacts: He is swatting people right now, in front of an audience. Hayli saw the stream and couldn’t believe it. Finley was watching it, too. The mother of the University of Arizona victim tipped him off. He emailed a link to his contacts in Canada and told them to tune in.

The Canadian police arrested the suspect on Dec. 5, four days after he tried to swat Hayli. Much of the case against him had been shipped up from Georgia.
And BTW, the 16 months was in a "youth" facility, in Canada....probably nothing like a "jail." He'll be out this coming March. And here is how he was evaluated....IOW, he's just getting started:
The psychiatric report noted that he had essentially no remorse: ‘‘His description of the pleasure he gets from causing humiliation and harm ... is suggestive of quite significant emerging psychopathic traits.’’ At a court appearance in May, he wore a sweatsuit, ankles shackled together; a local reporter observed him smiling occasionally and _______ his brown hair. In July, a judge sentenced him to 16 months in youth jail, with credit for time served while awaiting trial. He is scheduled to be released in March, at age 18.
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The breaking news was his punishment. And the topic of this thread. And not worth the 10,000 word read about his past antics.
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SA_Steve wrote:The breaking news was his punishment. And the topic of this thread. And not worth the 10,000 word read about his past antics.
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personally I thought the article was fascinating. I read it Sunday, very well written.
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