Met the first 30.06 I disliked.

[zatoman]

The wife had a health scare this evening which resulted in a trip to the hospital. She's fine, but when taking her in I ran into a 30.06 and 30.07 sign. Left her to go in while I hiked back to the car to deposit my pistol. The hospital is in a fairly sketchy area and the parking lot frequently contains vagrants.

I didn't appreciate being required to disarm in an area that is probably more dangerous than 95% of the places I ever frequent.

[baldeagle]

You'd better get used to it. There's very few hospitals that aren't signed.

[flintknapper]

The wife had a health scare this evening which resulted in a trip to the hospital. She's fine, but when taking her in I ran into a 30.06 and 30.07 sign. Left her to go in while I hiked back to the car to deposit my pistol. The hospital is in a fairly sketchy area and the parking lot frequently contains vagrants.

I didn't appreciate being required to disarm in an area that is probably more dangerous than 95% of the places I ever frequent.

^^^^^^^^ Certainly understand that!

My Daughter is an 'RN' and her first 4 years of experience had her alternating between the ER and ICU. She has related some fairly concerning stories about some ER patients, their friends or family. Late night on weekends is sure to involve Chemically Enhanced patients and some not so savory looking folks along with them.

She worked Rapid Response after that and is now 'travel nursing'...but she has seen some pretty scary stuff. The police handle most of it, but only after it has been going on for a while.

[NotRPB]

I have to go to many hospitals/clinics in several cities
Even many hospitals which did not USED TO BE signed at all... are signed both 30.06 AND 30.07 NOW
and that was the main reason I bought my KelTec sub2000 to carry a concealed long gun/rifle in a purse/briefcase/computer laptop case and not have the 30.06 and 30.07 signs apply to me WHICH ARE ADDRESSED TO persons "carrying a handgun under authority of Chapter 411 ..."License to Carry a HANDGUN""

[Abraham]

I find the title of this thread puzzling as it leaves me to wonder: Were all the other 30.06 signs liked?

Yes, I'm being a bit facetious, but it is an odd title...

[Ruark]

The wife had a health scare this evening which resulted in a trip to the hospital. She's fine, but when taking her in I ran into a 30.06 and 30.07 sign. Left her to go in while I hiked back to the car to deposit my pistol. The hospital is in a fairly sketchy area and the parking lot frequently contains vagrants.

I didn't appreciate being required to disarm in an area that is probably more dangerous than 95% of the places I ever frequent.

As a pretty effective compromise, I would suggest her getting a good pepper spray. I would recommend the Fox Labs 5.3 cone mist (NOT the "Mean Green"), with the Cop Top. This stuff will stop a locomotive.

http://www.foxlabs.com/products/pepper- ... s_AE5.html

[The Wall]

Someone should send the hospital a letter asking them if they can afford the law suite when someone gets assaulted, killed or injured in their parking lot by vagrants. I think the hospitals should do like airports. Only ban guns in secure areas of the hospital. If the area is as bad as the OP suggests I think I would ignore the signs and carry concealed until I got my wife inside safely. If someone noticed and said something I would just say I was so concerned about my wife I didn't notice the signs and then leave. And as you start to leave tell them that they are now responsible for your wife's safety.

[rotor]

I personally know 2 doctors that were mugged and beaten in the doctor's parking lot leaving a hospital late at night. What better way to be sure the victim was gun free and probably had some money in his wallet.

[zatoman]

I find the title of this thread puzzling as it leaves me to wonder: Were all the other 30.06 signs liked?

Yes, I'm being a bit facetious, but it is an odd title...

Yes you are right. I guess I meant to say that it was the first 30.06 sign I have seen in which I could both not take my business elsewhere and which also compromised my well being.

[chandler583]

Someone should send the hospital a letter asking them if they can afford the law suite when someone gets assaulted, killed or injured in their parking lot by vagrants. I think the hospitals should do like airports. Only ban guns in secure areas of the hospital. If the area is as bad as the OP suggests I think I would ignore the signs and carry concealed until I got my wife inside safely. If someone noticed and said something I would just say I was so concerned about my wife I didn't notice the signs and then leave. And as you start to leave tell them that they are now responsible for your wife's safety.

I don't think that's an effective argument right now. To my knowledge there hasn't been a law suit that was successfully brought against a business posted. The business already has a duty to create a safe environment if they are inviting the public. A suit could be brought if they hospital/business did not provide adequate lighting/security, but the fact that something happened is not necessarily grounds for a suit. As always, IANAL.

[TexasGal]

At least at some of them, you can carry a knife concealed. The county hospitals I have been to want even those left in the car. I took my son to JPS ER late one night in Fort Worth. I left my firearm in the truck, but didn't think about my EDC kershaw. We had to go through an inspection where the nice officer asked us about guns and knives. I sheepishly admitted I had the kershaw and then both myself and the officer raised eyebrows when my son produced three knives. It was a long walk back to the truck and I felt like a sitting duck coming back with nothing at all. That is not a good part of town.

[NotRPB]

At least at some of them, you can carry a knife concealed. The county hospitals I have been to want even those left in the car. I took my son to JPS ER late one night in Fort Worth. I left my firearm in the truck, but didn't think about my EDC kershaw. We had to go through an inspection where the nice officer asked us about guns and knives. I sheepishly admitted I had the kershaw and then both myself and the officer raised eyebrows when my son produced three knives. It was a long walk back to the truck and I felt like a sitting duck coming back with nothing at all. That is not a good part of town.

Interesting.
I wonder if knife preemption laws ... will change that?
https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+k ... 8&oe=utf-8

Texas Knife Law Preemption Takes Effect Today - Ushers in Greater Freedom for Texas
Tue Sep 01, 2015
https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?t=68600

The new state law prohibits a city or county from passing or enforcing knife ordinances more restrictive than state law, thereby eliminating the old patchwork of knife laws that acted as a legal minefield for anyone carrying a knife in the state. Residents and travelers in Texas can now be assured that a single knife law applies statewide.
http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?op ... iew&id=322

I wonder what that authority for a County Hospital to restrict "knives" in a government State/County building/hospital comes from?

I bet like the Zoo, it claims to be a childcare facility/educational institution?
If they have a Life-Flight helicopter maybe they claim to be the secured area of an airport? ...
Perhaps they were performing an execution or voting what to have for lunch/polling place there that day...


http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.46.htm
Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. a handgun, illegal knife, or club
Sec. 46.01. DEFINITIONS.
(6) "Illegal knife" means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one-half inches;
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown;
(C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard;
(D) bowie knife;
(E) sword; or
(F) spear.

(7) "Knife" means any bladed hand instrument that is capable of inflicting serious bodily injury or death by cutting or stabbing a person with the instrument.


Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED.
Text of subsection effective until August 01, 2016

(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):

Text of subsection effective on August 01, 2016

(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):

(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless:

(A) pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution; or

(B) the person possesses or goes with a concealed handgun that the person is licensed to carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and no other weapon to which this section applies, (That seems to "apply" to only an "illegal knife" rather than all knives) on the premises of an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education, on any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by the institution is being conducted, or in a passenger transportation vehicle of the institution;



There's several "knife law" guys on this forum that might know.
I'm not a lawyer
I leave mine outside of Courthouse buildings, I usually don't notice any other places that prohibit "LEGAL" Knives.

[maverick2076]

It makes me really appreciate the fact that our lo9cal hospital does not post 30.06 or 30.07.