True ND Story--I Swear

[DSARGE]

There is a guy at work that is a great guy, but can best be described as "high energy/no focus"--like a baloon flying around when you poke a hole in it. A cloud follows this guy around--the type of dude you don't stand near during a lightning storm. He recently got into guns--big time. He bought some weapons, .511 pants, even got a parttime job at a range. Doesn't have his CHL yet, but is a certified mall ninja.
Anyway, I came into work the other morning, and he pulled me aside with a serious look. He said he had some trigger work done on his Glock .40 and was cleaning it in his house. He SAID he reassembled it, locked the slide to the rear, and inserted a mag. He then went on to say that the force of the magazine seating sent the slide home not only chambering, but firing a round. Fortunately, the round went throught his TV and lodged in the wall not harming anyone. He swears his finger was nowhere near the trigger.
Personally, I question the accuracy of his story however, stranger things have happened. Have any of you ever heard of this kind of ND? Is it possible?

[txinvestigator]

There is a guy at work that is a great guy, but can best be described as "high energy/no focus"--like a baloon flying around when you poke a hole in it. A cloud follows this guy around--the type of dude you don't stand near during a lightning storm. He recently got into guns--big time. He bought some weapons, .511 pants, even got a parttime job at a range. Doesn't have his CHL yet, but is a certified mall ninja.
Anyway, I came into work the other morning, and he pulled me aside with a serious look. He said he had some trigger work done on his Glock .40 and was cleaning it in his house. He SAID he reassembled it, locked the slide to the rear, and inserted a mag. He then went on to say that the force of the magazine seating sent the slide home not only chambering, but firing a round. Fortunately, the round went throught his TV and lodged in the wall not harming anyone. He swears his finger was nowhere near the trigger.
Personally, I question the accuracy of his story however, stranger things have happened. Have any of you ever heard of this kind of ND? Is it possible?

Glock slides often release when slamming a magazine in hard. However, he had his finger on the trigger. That is why it went BANG.

[Drifter]

I've heard of things like this with certain semi-auto's, if the firing pin/striker is protruding when the slide cycles. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable can add better technical details.

In fact, I have a Walther P-38 WWII souvenir. If a certain part is broken or reassembled improperly it will can turn into an automatic and empty the entire mag when the mag is inserted and seated.

That would certainly wake one up!!!

[jbirds1210]

I believe the part about the slide falling. I see people depend on it when shooting competitively......I have never had it happen to me and I have owned a bunch of Glocks. Maybe I hold the gun at an angle during my reload that causes this not to occur.

I have a hard time believing that the round went off without his finger on the trigger.

[nuparadigm]

,,,
Glock slides often release when slamming a magazine in hard. However, he had his finger on the trigger. That is why it went BANG.

This is true. The Glock's Firing Pin Safety would prevent the ND. The only way this could have happened is if the individual had his finger on the trigger.

BTW: It's a common trait among Glocks that they'll "bump load". The way one does it is to insert the magazine with the heel of your loading hand sharply seating the magazine and, simultaneously, giving the rear of the magazine well a hard "bump". Gamers in USPSA and IDPA use the technique.

[T3hK1w1]

Drifter, my father has a Walther P1 (Aluminum-framed P38). Is that part you mentioned something that I would need to check, does it tend to wear out with use?

[HighVelocity]

Sounds like he wasn't professional enough to handle the glock fourty.

He was surprised by the slide dropping when he inserted the mag and he pulled the trigger. End of story. If he can't accept that the gun fired because he fired it then he needs to put it away until he accepts it.

[Crossfire]

Sounds like he wasn't professional enough to handle the glock fourty.

He was surprised by the slide dropping when he inserted the mag and he pulled the trigger. End of story. If he can't accept that the gun fired because he fired it then he needs to put it away until he accepts it.

Now, THERE is the definitive answer!

[quidni]

The difference between a fairy tale and a cowboy story, is that a fairy tale always begins with "Once upon a time..." and a cowboy story with "I swear, it really happened like this..."

(Yeah, I got me a few cowboy stories of my own )

[DSARGE]

Sounds like he wasn't professional enough to handle the glock fourty.

He was surprised by the slide dropping when he inserted the mag and he pulled the trigger. End of story. If he can't accept that the gun fired because he fired it then he needs to put it away until he accepts it.

Amen! He said the cop gave him a pretty good talking to when they came. He took it to the range and tried to duplicate what happened and couldn't after 100 rds. I told him to take it to another gunsmith and see if the girl that did the trigger work screwed something up, then go after her, but it sounds like my bud is the one that screwed up. Thanks for the inputs, and I actually learned something myself about the slide going forward. Had and carried a glock for six years and never knew it did that. Took it in the backyard and tried--'cept mine didn't fire.

[G.C.Montgomery]

This storry reminds me of a friend of mine. I've changed the names to protect the guilty. Anyway, "Jackie" called me up one day saying she and her husband ("Sonny") wanted me to do a basic pistol class for the two of them. We agreed on a date and time about a week into the future.

Friday, the day before the class rolls around and "Jackie" calls back saying she and "Sonny" won't be coming to class because "Sonny" had shot himself in the hand a day earlier. Fortunately, Sonny had shot himself through a fleshy part of his palm and missed all bones, nerves and critical structures that might affect his ability to make a living as an electrician. I could hear "Sonny" in the background complaing about the "hair trigger" on his...wait for it....Ruger P95. I had to contain a bit of laughter on this one because I love "Jackie" like a sister and I didn't want to call the love of her life an idiot. Anyway, "Sonny" gets on the horn and asked me if I could look the Ruger over to determine what might be wrong with it. Curiosity had long since gotten the better of me and I had to know what ham-handed, stupidity had led "Sonny" to perforate his hand.

It seems "Sonny" was wearing his new roscoe while out tending the cattle. The resident bull apparently was not being as compliant as "Sonny" thought he should be. So, "Sonny" had a "stroke of genius"...Can you see where this is going? This stroke of stupidity leads "Sonny" to conclude the noise from a shot into the ground near the bull's hoof will scare the bull into being more compliant. Here is where stupidity gets dangerous. "Sonny" pulls out the Ruger, apparently has his booger hook wrapped around the bang switch as he racks the slide. "Sonny" touches the now sensitized trigger with all the sensitivity that a Texas bread farmboy can muster and the Ruger works precisely as designed. The result was a trip to the hospital, about four or five stitches in "Sonny's" hand, and the bull escaped the fence because "Jackie and Sonny" left home in a pretty big hurry for the emergency room and forgot to close the gate. True story..."I swear, it really happened like this..."

[hoss4570]

Rule of thumb, Keep your finger OUT OF THE TRIGGER WELL till your ready to shoot, ESPECALLY with Glocks. I don't care what he says, his finger was on the trigger. He's just lucky he did'nt kill anyone.

[KBCraig]

There is a guy at work that is a great guy, but can best be described as "high energy/no focus"--like a baloon flying around when you poke a hole in it.

We've got one of those. Another guy at work described him as "a weedeater without a string" -- running a million RPM and accomplishing nothing.

[ELB]

There is a guy at work that is a great guy, but can best be described as "high energy/no focus"--like a baloon flying around when you poke a hole in it.

We've got one of those. Another guy at work described him as "a weedeater without a string" -- running a million RPM and accomplishing nothing.

The Air Force term for this is "All Mach and no heading."

+1 on root cause = finger on the trigger.

elb

[Photoman]

Who knows what kind of modifications were made to the gun?! I would highly recommend NOT modifying a carry gun.

With that being said, five will get you ten he pulled the trigger.

Also, why did the cops show up?