I thought that might be the case. I told my friend at the least the police would take his rifle and would not be buying it from him and he could be arrested for knowingly purchasing a firearm that he knew to have been illegally purchased due to lie on the 4473 form.AndyC wrote:He wouldn't get away unscathed - they'd get him (at least) on conspiracy to commit a felony.
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I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
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So, let me see if I have this straight. The friend is tempted to knowingly assume the risk that the seller is doing something illegal. The friend also doesn't know squat about this seller. How does the friend know this isn't a prelude to blackmail or a sting operation?C-dub wrote: ...
That's what I'm thinking too. I've been trying to convince my friend to tell this guy it's something he needs to stay away from, but since he only sees the guy building it doing something illegal he's not worried about him because he's not his friend.
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Can you point us to a law, regulation, code, or ordinance with the force of law that defines "gunsmithing" and sets up requirements for practitioners? Seriously?gljjt wrote:I think you are correct.winters wrote:I thought keeping someone elses gun overnight or without them physically there for the purposes of working on it was considered gunsmithing and required to be licensed?
I'm thinking that "gunsmithing" and manufacturing are different things, mostly. They might be the same, sometimes, and a gunsmith might also have an FFL, but doesn't necessarily have to.
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Does a gunsmith need to enter in a permanent "bound book" record every firearm received for adjustment or repair?
If a firearm is brought in for repairs and the owner waits while it is being repaired or if the gunsmith is able to return the firearm to the owner during the same business day, it is not necessary to list the firearm in the “bound book” as an “acquisition.” If the gunsmith has possession of the firearm from one business day to another or longer, the firearm must be recorded as an “acquisition” and a “disposition” in the permanent "bound book" record.
Is a license needed to engage in the business of engraving, customizing, refinishing or repairing firearms?
Yes. A person conducting such activities as a business is considered to be a gunsmith within the definition of a dealer.
[27 CFR 478.11]
from the atf faq site. not sure it helps but sounds like he needs a license of some type.
If a firearm is brought in for repairs and the owner waits while it is being repaired or if the gunsmith is able to return the firearm to the owner during the same business day, it is not necessary to list the firearm in the “bound book” as an “acquisition.” If the gunsmith has possession of the firearm from one business day to another or longer, the firearm must be recorded as an “acquisition” and a “disposition” in the permanent "bound book" record.
Is a license needed to engage in the business of engraving, customizing, refinishing or repairing firearms?
Yes. A person conducting such activities as a business is considered to be a gunsmith within the definition of a dealer.
[27 CFR 478.11]
from the atf faq site. not sure it helps but sounds like he needs a license of some type.
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Go to the FFL portion of the ATF website. Lots of good info that will likely answer your questions. I'm on a phone and don't want to type a book.